Message 16730 of 29717 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] Message Index Msg # ___ Go From: "Dustin" Date: Tue Aug 21, 2001 1:01 pm Subject: Re: [baltwash-burning] Skyclad question road: "an open way for vehicles, persons, and animals" > Just because we play make-believe, and call something a road, > that doesn't mean that it actually is one. Yes, it does. Sure, there's a legal difference between a public road and a private road, but they're both roads. Do you have another term you'd prefer to use? "non-governmentally maintained watered down dirt walkway you can't camp on" is too much of a mouthful for me. The BLM and other LEO's have decided to enforce laws as they would anywhere else. If they see a crime taking place, they will do their duty. It gets more complicated when you get into what rights of search and seizure they have, and what level (if any) of probable cause they need to search a tent. I think they consider camps open to inspection (it IS public land), and tents to be more along the lines of cars/homes. To be honest, I'm not too worried about it because I don't plan on breaking any laws (much), and the cops will do whatever they want regardless of what my understanding of the legalities are. back to toy-making... ----- Original Message ----- From: A Pagan Visitor To: Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 1:12 PM Subject: RE: [baltwash-burning] Skyclad question > -> the dpw creates roads... basically stamping the dirt down and creating > an > -> artificial artery to link the city together... > -> > -> check the map for more information about that.... > > Sigh. Just because we play make-believe, and call something a road, > that doesn't mean that it actually is one. > > There is no comparison between these fictitious roads, and, say, a > county road going past. If your camp is facing out on a real public > road, and you have a mass orgy that is visible from that road, then > maybe somebody's Aunt Gertrude will be getting an eyeful as she > drives from Gerlach to somewhere else in Nevada, and maybe she doesn't > want to deal with that. If she's on a public road, she has a > reasonable expectation that she will not have to, and so, if you > hold that orgy in that location, the police are well within their > rights to come and arrest you. > > On the other hand, if my dad laid out a few dirt roads on his old > farm, and gave them street names on a whim, it would not follow that > the Juneau County department of roads would then have the right to > start inspecting those dusty lanes, or that the sheriff could ticket > dad for speeding on them. Fantasy does not carry the weight of law. > The world is a strange place, but it is not that strange. > > Burning Man is a really, really big camp. It may be a well-developed, > and well-planned camp, but reality check - it is a camp, not a city. > One is there because one makes a trip to see a festival, at no small > expense in terms of money and trouble. One isn't transferred there by > one's company, and one won't stumble into it on the way to buying > a used car. So, what do you say that we exercise a little common > sense here, and remember that there is a difference between fantasy > and reality ? Don't take everything you read, so literally. > > Joe > > Baltwash-burning@egroups.com \o/ > http://www.burningman.com/ / \ > http://www.playadelfuego.org/ > ----------to get OFF THIS RIDE send a blank email to: > baltwash-burning-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Message 16730 of 29717 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] Message Index Msg # ___ Go Reply | Forward | View Source | Unwrap Lines ______________________________________________________________________ Copyright © 2002 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved. Privacy Policy - Terms of Service - Guidelines - Help