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   From:  A Pagan Visitor
   Date:  Tue Aug 21, 2001  3:28 pm
   Subject:  Re: Skyclad question

   -- Dave Diller <ddill@c...> wrote :
   > > To compare the Esplanade to the Beltway, in terms of status as
   >  >  "public  places"  would  be ludicrous. Citations based on taking
   whimsy
   > > literally, are not things that the authorities should be in the
   > > business of giving out. What's next ? Ticketing tourists in Walt
   >  >  Disney  World  if  they  walk  across  Mickey  Mouse  Lane,  for
   jaywalking, because
   > > they didn't go to the corner of Donald Duck Drive ? Come on ! What
   ever
   > > happened to common sense ?
   >
   >  What  ever  happened to common courtesy and consideration? The city
   still
   >  has  standards,  loose though they may be. Some still say there are
   too
   >  many,  but  with  25,000  people  you need SOME minimal guidelines.
   People
   >  acting  as  if they own the place and can do whatever the hell they
   please
   > and the rest of you be damned are the Problem, not the Participants.
   Dave, go to hell. I have never publicly masturbated, nor do I plan to.
   Nor have I given you any reason to think that I was planning to, so
   your remarks to that effect are completely out of line. There is a
   pre-existing  map to the camps, and the camps are very open about what
   will be
   going  on  at them. Their audiences are there by choice, and know what
   they're
   getting themselves in for.
   >  So  you  don't  mind  if little kids see you masturbating with your
   stuffed
   >  Minnie  Mouse  outside of your tent, at the intersection of Hard-on
   Blvd and
   > Plush Ave?
   Well, Dave, if the parents are dumb enough to take their kids to an
   event that they aren't old enough for, I'd say that the parents are
   the ones you should be taking that up with. I must say, though, that
   you did spend a lot of time in your letter, speculating about me
   masturbating. Is it a personal fantasy of yours ? Is it something
   that you've long dreamed about ?
   I  am  so  sorry  to have to disappoint you in this area, but I'm sure
   that Jung
   could  meet  your  needs in this area. I'd be happy to set you up with
   him. Now,
   would  you  prefer  this  with  S  and M, or without ? I have to know,
   because Tara
   needs advance notice, before ordering the whips and chains. It gets so
   hectic
   this time of year.
   > If you wanna go at it with your Disney Bendy Figurines, go join the
   >  Twisted  Exhibitionist  Sex Camp or something, where it is expected
   and -
   > ahem - normal.
   Never even heard of those, Dave, but apparently, you have. But, hey,
   I don't judge. If the woman of your dreams comes with Kung Fu grip,
   go for it. Just be sure not to leave the wrapper on my lawn when
   you're done. OK ?
   Dave, all sarcasm aside, the event is noted for its permissiveness.
   Does this bother you ? There's nothing wrong with that. And there are
   plenty of good, creative artistic events where you won't be exposed
   to such things. But when you start trying to tell other people what
   they can do, and try to excuse this by saying that you might be dumb
   enough to bring your impressionable young children with, that's what
   is really offensive. If you're not ready to live and let live, and
   maybe look the other way once in a while, then why are you coming ?
   Joe
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