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   From:  Jason Claiborne <jclaiborne@r...>
   Date:  Tue Aug 21, 2001  4:47 pm
   Subject:  RE: [baltwash-burning] Re: Ummm...Joe?

   -- "Jason & Rachel" <jason.claiborne@v...> wrote :
   >  >  I'd  like to thank everybody who wrote. It was reassuring to run
   into so
   > many people who were willing to help. I hope to run into
   > > some of you at Black Rock this year, and maybe the next as well.
   >
   >
   >  Is this the same person??? Who wrote the above statement after this
   list
   > tried to help you?
   >
   >  First  you  ask  for help, now you are going to insult everyone and
   call them
   > names? What kind of person are you? People went out of their way to
   > contact others and try to find you some help...I even forwarded your
   post
   to
   > my friends in SFO to try and find you a place to camp...
   Rachel ...
   When somebody accuses me of wanting to masturbate in front of small
   children, expecting a mild response is a bit much. Also, your history
   is a bit confused. What help I have received came from the Midwest
   and the east coast, not San Francisco. In general, you and your small
   handful  of cliquemates tend to be undersensitive when dishing out the
   abuse,
   and  oversensitive  when  discovering that others won't back down. You
   have
   exaggerated  ideas of what gratitude will get you. (The willingness to
   be a
   doormat,   isn't   it).   Oh,  and  you  seem  to  have  real  trouble
   understanding that
   there  is  more than one person named Joe. Or letting go of flamewars,
   it
   would  seem,  as you folks seem to be invading this list from the Diox
   list in
   San  Francisco.  (A more persistent group of trolls, I've never seen).
   Please
   go  away. Trying to pursue and bother people who have walked away from
   you is
   a low class thing to do. Please cut it out.
   ******
   clay writes:
   joe,  she  was  not the one that accused you of masturbating (in fact,
   nobody
   did. dave was using that as an example), but i would also respond if i
   felt
   like  i  was  being  accused of doing that.... which you weren't. that
   would be
   the  3rd  or  4th  time  that you've missed the point of the email yet
   chose to
   respond in an attacking fashion.
   though you may have received help from the midwest and the east coast
   (rachel is, by the way, an east coast person) that's not what she was
   saying..  what she said was that she forwarded your email to people in
   san
   fran  that have a camp so that you could have a place to camp based on
   the
   email referenced above. nothing more than that.
   who has asked for anybody to be a doormat? seems you are developing a
   reputation all over the regional lists, and it is not a good one.
   i think you've confused yourself beyond repair here... nobody that has
   responded  to  the  threads  in question are from the diox list in san
   fran
   (well, they could be there also, but not exclusively).
   advice well given... heed it.
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