Subject: Fwd: Re: [burningcorn] One thing that wasn't too cool at B.C. --- In burningcorn@y..., bleu wrote: This has been discussed over and over on the Burning Man list. I, personally, agree with Henry. I feel that, right or wrong, if I'm at a public event then I know that there's a good possibility that I'm going to end up on film which will most likely find itself to the web. *Especially* if I'm naked, wearing some sort of costume, or doing something even remotely interesting (like spinning fire). I'm definitely a picture-taker. I like to capture things on film because it helps me remember. I put them on the web because I like to share them with others. I don't feel it keeps me from participating -- my camera sat to the side most of the night, and I'd go grab it occasionally to capture something. I know that video cameras are by nature a little different, but if somebody's passion is videotaping, I hate to see that squashed. I think it only becomes an issue if there are more documenters than participators, which I don't think was the case at Burning Corn. Yes, there were spectators, and there always will be -- not everybody is outgoing enough to get up and get jiggy in front of a bunch of strangers. Some people don't want to do that at all -- they're perfectly content to watch and enjoy the energy. I do *try* and either get permission of people who are nude, or make sure that they know I'm taking their picture. That's easy when I know the person, but not so much so when it's a stranger. I'm sure I'm guilty of taking nude photos at Burning Man or elsewhere (the Gay Parade here in Chicago comes to mind) where the subject didn't realize. It's had to *not* capture naked people at Burning Man, even if you're taking a picture of something else entirely! Another issue is digital zoom -- anyone with a good digital camera can take a close up from pretty far away without any extra equipment. There are camps at Burning Man that put up signs saying that pictures are not appreciated in their camp, and I have no problem with complying with that. If a large enough number of people at an event wanted to ban cameras entirely, I'd have no problem with that, either. I feel that the majority rules in these situations. Is this right? I don't know. Like I said -- I feel that if you're making a spectacle of yourself, expect people to take pictures and post them on their website. Joe, I know you don't have a problem with your nakedness being posted because you gave me permission to post my pictures (which came out quite nicely, I might add) -- I think it's just the fact that you weren't asked that you have a problem with. And, on the one hand -- it was a small event, and you were easy to spot, it wouldn't have been hard to ask you. On the other hand, I know you, and when I looked at the picture, it was blurred enough that I wasn't positive if that was you or the other naked guy (who was also tall with dark hair). So if I was the one posting the picture, I probably would have felt that it was obscure enough that no one would really recognize you. If you've changed your mind about my pictures, let me know because you're quite recognizable in them. :)bleu --- End forwarded message ---