Subject: Fwd:  Re: [burningcorn] That was really disappointing

--- In burningcorn@y..., "Gary Xaoui" <gxaoui@c...> wrote:
As to the comparison of Burning Corn TO Burning Man with the 
tree/Treehouse
issue.  You must remember that in the early 90d's when BM started as 
a small
beach party, the accessibility to image recording equipment Still 
Image, or
Video, Digital or Film, was not like it is now.  Hell I got a pop up 
ad
today for a wireless digital camera, that was slanted to 'spy on 
people'.
Think back to how you first heard of events like this one, or Burning 
Man
itself.  Did you immediately understand what it was about?  Did you 
see
images of it?  Did you just hear stories about the wild, crazy, stuff 
that
went on in the name of Art, Community, or Neo-pagan individualism?
I am an artist, that is the most important thing in my life.  Putting 
on
events like this on is one of the ways I enjoy expressing myself.  A 
large
part of that is setting up the environment for others to do so also.  
I take
great pride in what I (with the expellant help of others) have been 
able to
for this community.  When a peace of Art becomes so large that I 
cannot
experience it all and still perform in it I feel sort of cheated.  In
hearing stories and looking at some of the images I missed some 
really cool
stuff. (like the firecrackers making a wild strobe effect when going 
off
inside the core.  I put them there.  I would have like to have seen 
that!)
Hopefully some of the video documentation will provide me with better 
ideas
on how to make better Art.  Like placement of fireworks, position and
amounts of fuel, or improving my firebreathing technique.
As a working Professional Artist the one thing I have found you 
cannot get
enough of is documentation.   Sure Kristen can tell you all about her 
16'
tall Ear of Corn, show you some images of it being built, set up, and
displayed.  But its burn and the activities that were inspired to 
happen
around it are what its point as an object of art was.  So shouldn't 
she be
able to document the event?  And shouldn't other Artists be able to 
use this
event to make art of there own?  The images posted did that well.  I 
am not
condoning the use of just your individual image take out of context, 
and
posted without your consent.  But when its used as documentation and 
you are
not readily Identifiably and the image is part of an overall peace.   
I feel
that is very acceptable, and most often the style of image people are 
taking
at such an event.

GXAOUI

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Cult Goddess <cultgoddess@c...>
To: <burningcorn@y...>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:55 PM
Subject: Re: [burningcorn] That was really disappointing


> "THE CHEESY POLE"
> I suggested the pole to mark, and he agree. We are not trying to 
shut down
> the discussion, honestly, that was never my intention.  As 
organizers of
> this event, we thought a pole was a good idea to get a more 
accurate count
> of what our 69 or so members of the burning corn list are thinking 
as far
as
> camera presence/use.  Feel free to continue with the discussion.  I 
do see
> the point you were making with the tree seed, I don't nessesarily 
agree
with
> it, but it is a valid point.  It is also a different angle on the
discussion
> at hand, and I am interested in what other think.
>   Please reference "kinda missing the point (videotaping)"
> One more thing, Put yourself in the position of the organizers for a
moment.
> we want to make this an enlightening experience for everyone.   We 
are
> exploring how we can do that in a similiar manner as to how this
discussion
> is taking place.  I am feeling  that chilling effect you expressed
> experiencing at the burn possibly creaping onto this very message 
board.
> Discussion is nessesary, but at some point topics do come full 
circle.
>    On a completely different note GX and I were discussing official
> committees this evening.  perhaps we need a privacy-publicity 
committee,
to
> handle these issues in the future? My two cents: I was kind 
intrigued by
the
> idea that someone threw out of having a designated documentation 
area.
>
> Kristen
>
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