From: karl@MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) Subject: Re: Joseph Dunphy 's attack on soc.culture.israel Date: 26 Dec 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <4bpfgm$kh6@Venus.mcs.com> references: <4b9ont$aem@jik.datasrv.co.il> <4bej88$9vi@Mars.mcs.com> <4bhphr$401@teal.csn.net> organization: MCSNet Ops, Chicago, IL newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.misc In article <4bhphr$401@teal.csn.net>, Bruce Ediger wrote: >karl@MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) wrote: >:Glad to -- when the people who mailbombed him FIRST have their accounts >:tanked -- permanently. > >What is the criteria for "mailbomb" here? What Dunphy considers a "mailbomb" >is about 4 messages, all probably sent from different people. > >:I have the list, and the proof right here. > >Please post the list. I want to see if I'm on it: I sent 1 (one) email to >Dunphy pointing out that his "Back Spamming" campaign was rude as hell, >and he seemed to consider that part of a "mailbomb". > >:The user in question doesn't even RECEIVE most email any more -- he's had to >:install filters to discard it unread. > >That's because he's such an enormously abrasive person that he gets tons >of complaints. No, its because he received 240MB of email in *TEN* messages. Some of which have become a matter of criminal referral to law enforcement agencies when they impacted the network's operation here. Oh, and I understand there are copies of Usenet postings in which certain individuals here attempted to form a group to harass this user -- including sending him inappropriate email, multiple copies of his postings, etc. I find it interesting that of the people who have complained about receiving "inappropriate" email replies, NONE OF THEM have been able to show ONE email message received from this user under the following circumstances: 1) The person receiving the large message WAS NOT ACTIVELY SENDING THIS USER EMAIL THEMSELVES. 2) ANY Messages received after the person in question (a) sent email asking for no further contact, and (b) stopped sending email themselves to that account. Why is that? If someone was being mail-bombed and *did nothing to provoke it* (like organizing and participating in a harassment campaign themselves) that would be an extremely serious issue. Its a lot harder to get upset at someone who takes the abusive email they receive in a day, bundles it up, and sends it as a reply to those who send him abusive email THEMSELVES. This isn't the first time Jonathan or Tim has gotten their shorts knotted up over someone who they disagree with in the "*.israel*" newsgroups. Their credibility is shot straight to hell for exactly this reason, and as such I require absolute, concrete proof from these two characters. Remember "arf"? I do. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity Modem: [+1 312 248-0900] | (shell, PPP, SLIP, leased) in Chicagoland Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1] | 10 Chicagoland POPs, ISDN, 28.8, much more Fax: [+1 312 248-9865] | Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net/ ISDN - Get it here TODAY! | Home of Chicago's only FULL Clarinet feed!