From: karl@MCS.COM (Karl Denninger)
Subject: Re: Joseph Dunphy <stats@MCS.COM>'s attack on soc.culture.israel
Date: 25 Dec 1995 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <4bmmdq$bbv@Venus.mcs.com>
references: <4b9ont$aem@jik.datasrv.co.il> <4be014$8hb@jik.datasrv.co.il> <4bf4
la$qic@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <DK55Cr.1sH@emrl.com>
organization: MCSNet Ops, Chicago, IL
newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.misc

In article <DK55Cr.1sH@emrl.com>, Aaron Marquez <marquez@emrl.com> wrote:
>In article <4bf4la$qic@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
>Tim Skirvin <tskirvin@uiuc.edu> wrote:
>>jik@annex-1-slip-jik.cam.ov.com (Jonathan Kamens) writes:
>>>Here's the most recent E-mail I've received from Mr. Denninger:
>>[snip -- the following quotes are from Karl]
>>>You make accusations above, but present no evidence.  Line-item-by-line-item
>>>please.... that is, if you really have a serious issue that is supported by
>>>the evidence.
>>
>>      Karl, you know perfectly well that, when I told you I was going
>>to do this, you threatened to sue me in civil and criminal court.
>>
>>      You refuse to do anything without proof, and you do not *accept*
>>proof.  Do you see nothing wrong with this?
>>
>>                              - Tim Skirvin (tskirvin@uiuc.edu)
>>--
>><a href="http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin">Skirv's Homepage</a>
>><a href="http://arh0062.urh.uiuc.edu/killfile.html">The Daemons</a>
>
>
> (my usual disclaimer that I'm not a Usenet god and am just speculating...)
>
>
> Is this sysadmins continued ill behavior and bad form ground for a
>possible declaration of his as a rogue site in the future? I'm speaking
>of Denninger, of course...Any ideas?

Both Tim Skirvin and Jonathan Kamans are judged "non credible" at MCSNet
absent concrete, verifyable proof of an allegation *AND* proof of lack of
provocation.

This is due to a long history that we have had with both "gentlemen".

Again, those who wish to allege that a customer of ours is violating our
terms of service are welcome to submit their evidence through our normal
procedure.

We do not respond to threats, nor act on same.

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