From: karl@MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) Subject: Re: Joseph Dunphy 's attack on soc.culture.israel Date: 26 Dec 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <4bpcj2$gt9@Venus.mcs.com> references: <4b9ont$aem@jik.datasrv.co.il> <4be014$8hb@jik.datasrv.co.il> <4bhk kg$57s@jik.datasrv.co.il> <4bp19r$uth@jik.datasrv.co.il> organization: MCSNet Ops, Chicago, IL newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.misc In article <4bp19r$uth@jik.datasrv.co.il>, Jonathan Kamens wrote: >Here's another message I received from Karl, followed by two responses to it >which I sent him: Posting private email is an act of copyright violation and is a serious issue here. We will no longer correspond with you in any form whatsoever since you have seen fit to publish private correspondance. > Our investigatory and censureship procedures are properly between us and ou r > customers. You have no standing to ask these questions. > >I have the right to know the disposition of complaints that I have >directed against one of your users. No you don't. This isn't a courtroom, and you have no right to COMPEL release of ANY information about our subscribers -- unless you bear a valid subpoena. You do not. >your users intentionally and with malice posts a large amount of >off-topic material in a newsgroup, and I report it to you, I have the >right to know what you have done about it or why you haven't done >anything about it. No. you don't. >Another thing.... You wrote: > > Jonathan, there are no current TOS issues which you have properly raised > through our procedure and which are open. > >Please tell me if you believe that I have "properly raised through >[your] procedure" *any* TOS issues concerning Mr. Dunphy. That is, >are you really claiming that you have investigated the complaints I've >raised and have found them to be without merit, or that I have somehow >failed to follow your "letter of the law" for how such complaints must >be reported, so my complaints don't count? If the latter, then please >tell me in detail what I have done wrong so that I may file my >complaints in the manner you consider "proper". > >Jonathan Kamens | OpenVision Technologies, Inc. | jik@cam.ov.com I have called out, here and in email to you, specific procedures. Either follow them or not. They are also on our web page. I suggest you read them. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity Modem: [+1 312 248-0900] | (shell, PPP, SLIP, leased) in Chicagoland Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1] | 10 Chicagoland POPs, ISDN, 28.8, much more Fax: [+1 312 248-9865] | Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net/ ISDN - Get it here TODAY! | Home of Chicago's only FULL Clarinet feed!