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From: john1@interport.net (Fred Cherry)
Subject: Re: Counter-attack to lies by religous extremists
Date: 22 Jul 1995 00:00:00 GMT
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Subject: Re: Counter-attack to lies by religous extremists
Date: 20 Jul 1995 04:37:19 GMT
Meir Lehrer <lehrer@milcse.cig.mot.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm an Orthodox Jew living in Israel, so I feel fairly certain that I'm
> a qualified "religious" extremist in just about any book (did I mention
> I'm building a house in the West Bank?). Anyway, the war of words is some-
> thing I'm all too familiar with. Most of our Palestinian "crisis" is due
> to Arafat's success use (and or inability to capitalize upon in suite) of
> word/term "recoinage".

Hi yourself,

I am happy to make contact with a genuine ISRAELI Jew. I, myself, am an Unorthodox Jew. That is, I belong to a newly established branch of Judaism. I figure that if homosexual Jews can establish gay congregations, such as Beth Simchat Torah, why can't I establish a branch of Judaism to suit myself? The First Amendment of the United States Constitution gives me that right.

I have a congenital illness known as celiac disease. Because of this illness, I was never able to establish a relationship with a woman on the usual terms. The only way I was ever able to establish a relationship with a woman is by paying her. In other words, I am a client of women prostitutes.

It's impossible to engage in a reasonable discussion with almost any homosexual on the internet. Almost all homosexuals on the internet engage in ad hominem attacks. For example, I have been called: a "cretinous little shit", "ONE SICK MOTHERFUCKER", "NOTHING BUT A FILTHY ROTTEN STINKING JEW ASSHOLE", "The Ketchup Jew", and a "smeghead." There is a thread right now titled: "Fred Cherry: a hateful subhuman." I believe it is correct to say that I am the most hated person on the internet. I'll tell you how all of this got started. I got on the internet originally to publicize my cause, which is the decriminalization of prostitution. In the United States, except for a few locations out in the desert in the State of Nevada which allow brothels, every aspect of prostitution is criminalized. I originally started out on the internet mostly posting and reading articles in the alt.sex newsgroup. I soon encountered a spokesman for the North American Man/Boy Love Association, a very powerful and influential organization of homosexual child-molesters (NAMBLA, for short). I got into "flame wars" with this spokesman. Then I got into the alt.homosexual newsgroup to further attack NAMBLA. I stated that NAMBLA changes the sexual orientation of young boys from heterosexual to homosexual. That did it! That's when the hate messages against me started. Earlier than that I had stated that my sexual orientation is that I am a client of women prostitutes. That was another statement that gets homosexuals to go ape. Homosexuals claim that there are only three sexual orientations, namely heterosexual, homosexual, and bisexual. That's just a ploy to enable homosexuals to discriminate against people of my sexual orientation. Then they call ME a bigot because I say that I am just as good as they are.

> Therefore, I'd like to coin a term of my own which would seem to be wholely
> appropriate given this topic, "choice-extremists". Yes, that's right, a
> "choice-extremist" is who we're dealing with here. It is typically anyone
> who abuses the available options provided them by 'free choice'. Just be-
> cause something is physically possible, and not illegal, doesn't make it
> beneficial. I can thrust my hand into a combine blade without breaking any
> laws (at least that come to mind), and within the full bounds of my free
> choice and individual rights. Yet, the resulting loss of limb may show this
> to be a foolish use of my free will and choice.

I suppose you would call me a "choice extremist." Well, that doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'm not asking for anyone's approbation. All I ask is that I be left alone to seek out an adult partner to engage in sexual activity under mutually agreeable terms. If you think my lifestyle is immoral, you're entitled to think that. Just don't use your influence to get the government to criminalize my lifestyle, the way homosexuals in the United States have done to me.

> The problem with modern day homosexuals is that the idea of the "feel good"
> society, and "gay pride", not only take away any possible stigma in this
> action, but actually raise it to a spiritually endowed pursuit. In Judaism
> we have a phrase, "Do a sin the first time, and you'll be overcome with
> guilt and disgust forcing you towards repentment. Do it a second time and
> you don't feel quite as bad, almost rationalizing it. Do it a third time,
> and it becomes a mitzva (commandment and/or good deed)". This is exactly
> what homosexuality is about. Although the example of thrusting one's hand
> into a combine blade is a bit more obvious of a risk, homosexuality con-
> tains hidden risks, and not all of them of the physical realm.

I don't understand this whole business of "coming out of the closet" and "gay pride." The only reason I have gone public with the fact that I am a client of women prostitutes is to protest the fact that my life style is illegal. The minute that prostitution becomes decriminalized in any state in the United States where I can live (I have health problems which require that I live in a warm, dry climate) I will dissolve Johns & Call Girls United Against Repression, of which I am the Chairman of the Board.

I was thinking of coming out of the closet as a slob and proclaiming Slob Pride Day. Ever since my (prostitute) girlfriend and I broke up over a year ago, my slobbishness has come to the fore. Look at all the great men in history who were slobs. Henry VIII was a slob! Beethoven was a slob! Einstein was a slob! If homosexual can march, why can't slobs march? If homosexuals can chant: "Two, four, six, eight. Gay is twice as good as straight!", why can't slobs chant: "Five, ten, twenty, thirty. Clean is half as good as dirty!"? Our march would start at Borough Hall in Staten Island, New York and proceed to the Great Kills landfill, which is the largest garbage dump in the world. I refer to it as: "Mt. Koch", after Mayor Edward I. Koch, former homosexual mayor of New York City.

Here, in the United States, homosexuals have proclaimed their belief in a "Gay Holocaust." There are even some Jewish homosexuals here who spout this nonsense. What do you, an ISRAELI Jew, think about that?

Did you ever read a book by Howard Fast titled: "My Glorious Brothers"? This is a fictionalized account of how Our Glorious Ancestors, the Maccabees, fought a war of liberation against homosexual oppression.

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Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - Lincoln

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