This would not be the last effort to get such a petition going.

The earlier one, which I started, met some very curious opposition a few years back, and has been vanishing from the archives in an odd manner. (As has the other petition).








From : .. fred-get@lost.com (Joseph Dunphy)
Organization : .. Better Things To Do
Date : .. 9 Apr 1998 20:52:52 GMT
Newsgroups : .. alt.feminism, soc.motss, alt.support.crossposting, alt.politics.homosexuality, alt.bbs.allsysop, alt.evil, alt.christnet, alt.cesium, alt.homosexual, gus.group, alt.angst,news.admin.net-abuse.misc, alt.usenet.kooks, can.motss, ne.motss, soc.bi
Message-ID : .. <7g63fg$3q9$2@silicon.cybertalk.com>



Begging your pardon for the mass crossposting, here, but these groups were not chosen at random. With the exception of the ne groups, and the netloon groups, these are some of groups that Fred has taken his NAMBLA crusade into, and libeled people in.

If it was just a matter of Fred being an idiot, or even being a massively crossposted idiot, there would be no reason to give him a second thought. But Fred does more than that. Fred invents remarks, and sticks them into people's mouths. He lies ouright, on a regular basis, and claims that people who have openly opposed NAMBLA, are pedophiles who have been arguing its cause. That is libel. That is not protected speech, even under the US constitution. And it should not be tolerated.

Let us be rid of Mr. Cherry, for good. Sure, he has been chased off of ISPs before. But he always manages to find a new one to jump over to. What I am proposing is a petition, addressed to all ISPs in the Boston metropolitan area, in particular, and all ISPs in general, that they refuse Mr. Cherry's business so long as he persists in engaging in libel, directed against those who have disagreed with him online. Given that his pattern of doing so has been documented, over a period of years, they should seriously consider refusing to do business with him, period. Let any ISP that would consider his application, see what they will have to look forward to answering for, should they take him on as a subscriber, and let's see how many actually want to.

The followups are set to the groups for Fred's local area, the netkook groups, and alt.bbs.allsysop, so potential ISPs will see them. Replies go straight to Fred's postmaster.

Don't think of this as helping me, think of this as getting rid of Cherry, once and for all, and helping everyone, yourself included.

So, if you would, please sign the petition below, and I will sign it myself, after a certain number of signatures appear on it.







To the ISPs in the Boston Area
______________________________


We, the undersigned, are writing to call your attention to the abuses, not merely of the net, but of the rights of his fellow net residents, by Fred Cherry, and ask that you in no way facilitate the commission of further abuses, by this man. We recognise and respect the right of each poster to argue what he or she believes, even if we should find it absurd or offensive, and we commend any ISP which stands up for its subscribers' rights in this area, for its integrity and resolve. But Mr. Cherry has exceeded his rights on numerous occasions, and gone beyond the mere argument of a position, or expression of a sentiment.

Mr. Cherry has responded to honest arguments against the positions that he has seeked to advance, and expressions of dismay at the bigotry that he has displayed against those whose sexual orientations he disapproves of, with campaigns of libel, and character assassination, taken to an unlawful degree. He has, without any justification in fact, alleged that those who have disagreed with him, are homosexual pedophiles and members or supporters of NAMBLA, the North American Man Boy Love Association, even when the targets of his libel have been quite outspoken in their opposition to this organization. Those who actually are gay, are being harassed by this, as Fred encourages others to heap scorn on them, for that which is noone's business, save their own. Those who are not, are so wrongly labled, in a society that rarely even pays lip service to the concept of tolerance, much less acceptance, of lifestyles differing from those layed out by the traditional norm, and may consequently find themselves subjected to discrimimation in employment and housing, prejudice in their social dealings, and loss of business - all of which, when resulting from the reckless or knowing statement of an untruth, reflect the presence of actionable torts, and are unacceptable, in any even marginally civilised setting.

In arguing that his opponents are pedophiles, in response to any dispute over the validity of one of his arguments, and that they have supported NAMBLA, when they have not, Mr. Cherry engages in libel, which is expressly excluded from protection under the first amendment to the constitution of the United states, Mr. Cherry's country of residence, is an actionable tort in all 50 of its states, and is a criminal act in much of that country. Aside from the issues of law, there are issues of justice that arise as a result of this act.

Were Mr. Cherry to wish to continue arguing, without libeling someone in this fashion, we would passionately defend his right to play the fool, in every post he made. But freedom of expression also requires that one have control over what it is that people imagine that one has expressed. If another is by circumstance granted the power to create the illusion that one said something that one did not, that undermines the freedom to communicate what one's thoughts are, every bit as if the transmission of what it is that actually was said, were to be obstructed. By granting himself the freedom to put words in the mouths of others, Mr. Cherry has undermined our freedom of expression, and he doesn't have our permission to do so.

Enough is enough. We, the undersigned, request that that those who would give Mr. Cherry access to the net, take appropriate action to insure that the abuses described above, see no repetition in the future.

Signed, beginning on this 9th day of April, 1998 CE, by those below.







(End of post)

Waste of time, really. The sysop wasn't inclined to listen to reason, and while many people loved to gripe about Cherry, going out on a limb and actually try to do something about his online behavior was far more than most of them were willing to do.





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